tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post5351098953744502716..comments2024-03-27T23:24:02.731-04:00Comments on PowerPop: Great Dilemmas of Our AgeNYMaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10863355110457910935noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-86054406366267826922008-06-13T14:23:00.000-04:002008-06-13T14:23:00.000-04:00any music that did not suck in the late 70s was ca...<I>any music that did not suck in the late 70s was called punk or new wave</I><BR/><BR/>Ha! That's probably true.<BR/><BR/>Though my interlocutor would probably argue for classifying Petty with Springsteen. IIRC, the conversation went something like, "He's not power pop! He's rock and roll."<BR/><BR/>Of course, there was Jameson's involved, so I could be misremembering.NYMaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863355110457910935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-37843857576774343282008-06-13T13:14:00.000-04:002008-06-13T13:14:00.000-04:00If I remember correctly, things are a little blurr...If I remember correctly, things are a little blurry from this period to be honest, any music that did not suck in the late 70s was called punk or new wave. Well, except for the Boss.<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-81954766406475357402008-06-12T21:28:00.000-04:002008-06-12T21:28:00.000-04:00Oooopppssss! 9:24 was me.aangus;)Oooopppssss! 9:24 was me.<BR/><BR/>aangus<BR/><BR/>;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-43242087095526071912008-06-12T21:24:00.000-04:002008-06-12T21:24:00.000-04:00If this doesn't settle the discussion nothing will...If this doesn't settle the discussion nothing will.<BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=yHJMp5bz9u8<BR/><BR/>Decent band too.<BR/><BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-75112567141406004002008-06-12T20:58:00.000-04:002008-06-12T20:58:00.000-04:00Yes TP&TH's are powerpop but they transend powerpo...Yes TP&TH's are powerpop but they transend powerpop by exploring roots music way beyond any roots exploration required for powerpop.<BR/><BR/>ROTP(lumber)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-31321935451625229372008-06-12T20:43:00.000-04:002008-06-12T20:43:00.000-04:00Another ditto on the TP="punk/new wave". And, yeah...Another ditto on the TP="punk/new wave". <BR/><BR/>And, yeah, the first couple of records have several examples of pure power pop, but on the whole, I'd say that's not his real pigeonhole. Most of the Petty <I>oeuvre</I> isn't - it's more like Springsteen+South-Dylan. <BR/><BR/>It also pains me to admit it, being the TP fan that I was back in the day, but it turns out that the guy just isn't that interesting; it would be hard to name someone else who's had such a long career with so little to say.MBowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992038501958547302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-42054812891113308812008-06-12T19:35:00.000-04:002008-06-12T19:35:00.000-04:00Yes, I am old enough to remember when TP was consi...Yes, I am old enough to remember when TP was considered vaguely "punkish." (As were Cheap Trick, for that matter..)<BR/> And I second Simels on Mudcrutch - best goddamned rock record I've heard all year.<BR/> - bill bucknerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-85892477251849419832008-06-12T17:50:00.000-04:002008-06-12T17:50:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.steve simelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13247393763004076992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-32524191628988009442008-06-12T16:55:00.001-04:002008-06-12T16:55:00.001-04:00My skinny tie band did killer versions of "Listen ...My skinny tie band did killer versions of "Listen to Heart", "I Need to Know" and "American Girl."<BR/><BR/>God, I love that song. Especially right before the solo/fadeout, when he goes "whoa-oh-oh-oh" or however you write that.<BR/>:-)steve simelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13247393763004076992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-56948440314639122982008-06-12T16:55:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:55:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.steve simelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13247393763004076992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-52130564488061543942008-06-12T16:53:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:53:00.000-04:00Steve,Here's the first place I'd ever heard of TP....Steve,<BR/><BR/>Here's the first place I'd ever heard of <A HREF="http://fotos.marktplaats.nl/kopen/9/c4/BDWkHiftzg/E9GzHJN+Xmw==.jpg" REL="nofollow">TP.</A><BR/><BR/>One of my buddies had this disc.Kid Charlemagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12109953353900729258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-15647817716051558192008-06-12T16:42:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:42:00.000-04:00oops- meant to say 'american girl,' not 'starry ey...oops- meant to say 'american girl,' not 'starry eyes.'<BR/><BR/>(tho of course they did that one, too!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-87429107712584346192008-06-12T16:41:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:41:00.000-04:00tom petty and the heartbreakers are actually in th...tom petty and the heartbreakers are actually in the trouser press guide to new wave records (at least the early editions). as i guess steve was well aware.<BR/><BR/>now that was a silly classification. (maybe someone got them confused with johnny thunders and the heartbreakers?) but petty is a power popper's power popper. proof positive (let's keep this alliteration alive!):<BR/><BR/>a few years back i saw john wicks of the records play a small club, and his band did 'starry eyes.'<BR/><BR/>q.e.d.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-81602422495510469432008-06-12T16:36:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:36:00.000-04:00TP was actually billed as punk, solely because he ...TP was actually billed as punk, solely because he was wearing a leather jacket on the cover of the first album. I'm not kidding....<BR/><BR/>Also, the Mudcrutch album is fricking great. Go to you tube and check out the band documentary or the video of "Lover of the Bayou."steve simelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13247393763004076992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-53164901071344301232008-06-12T16:17:00.000-04:002008-06-12T16:17:00.000-04:00What's the deal with the Mudcrutch disc I saw at t...What's the deal with the Mudcrutch disc I saw at the store the other day?<BR/><BR/>Also, TP was billed as "new wave" when he first appeared (because music was so shitty at the time, that anything that was stripped-down R&R was lumped into that category). <BR/><BR/>There was an interesting bit in the Gene Clark bio about McGuinn resisting covering his songs as he saw him as just a mimic. Apparently, "American Girl" was written with Roger in mind.Kid Charlemagnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12109953353900729258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-80922215078628563092008-06-12T14:26:00.000-04:002008-06-12T14:26:00.000-04:00Without a doubt. If Listen To Her Heart isn't PP,...Without a doubt. If <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXR8yuiiCKQ" REL="nofollow">Listen To Her Heart</A> isn't PP, then I'll eat my hat. (I don't wear a hat, btw.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-5982295101506821192008-06-12T13:56:00.000-04:002008-06-12T13:56:00.000-04:00Trey,There's definitely a Southern influence (he's...Trey,<BR/>There's definitely a Southern influence (he's a Gainesville, Florida boy, IIRC), but the line comes straight down from The Beatles, which is pretty much the definition of power pop for me.NYMaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10863355110457910935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-26384929309010319002008-06-12T13:29:00.000-04:002008-06-12T13:29:00.000-04:00That was me at 1:20 Mary.Vicki, Who ♥ Al Go...That was me at 1:20 Mary.<BR/><BR/>Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore.<BR/><BR/>Blogger isn't accepting my name, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-85160219909450130992008-06-12T13:27:00.000-04:002008-06-12T13:27:00.000-04:00So say we all.Not everything he did was power pop,...So say we all.<BR/><BR/>Not everything he did was power pop, but he does it when he chooses to, thankfully that is quite often, and he does it well!<BR/><BR/>OK, he has a bluesy delivery, but the music is guitar driven pop more often than not, and that is good for us.<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-88938705972993784832008-06-12T13:20:00.002-04:002008-06-12T13:20:00.002-04:00Absolutely. What's the reasoning? His voice doesn'...Absolutely. What's the reasoning? His voice doesn't sound like Dave Edmunds' voice?<BR/><BR/>100% pop, imo.Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219813744221264425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-47613785456726687182008-06-12T13:20:00.001-04:002008-06-12T13:20:00.001-04:00Welcome Back, NYMary! We missed you.And I'd say t...Welcome Back, NYMary! We missed you.<BR/><BR/>And I'd say that Petty is Power Pop. I was gonna comment on the guitar riffs, but I see someone beat me to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-76930952732023871702008-06-12T13:20:00.000-04:002008-06-12T13:20:00.000-04:00What the Simels guy said!aangusWhat the Simels guy said!<BR/><BR/>aangusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8921382.post-1628000953158976622008-06-12T13:14:00.000-04:002008-06-12T13:14:00.000-04:00An emphatic yes.How anybody can hear the opening t...An emphatic yes.<BR/><BR/>How anybody can hear the opening twelve-string riff on "The Waiting" and think anything else is beyond me.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, not every thing the guy ever did qualifies, but the vast majority for sure...steve simelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13247393763004076992noreply@blogger.com